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JohnnyUtah

Age/Gender: 29, Male
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I have to go return some videotapes.

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JohnnyUtah

Wacom Cintiq 12WX (I love those sexy hardware names)

Posted by JohnnyUtah Dec. 29, 2007 @ 8:32 AM EST

UPDATE:

This tablet rules. RULES I SAY. It's responsive, a great size, and one of the best features - you can program a hotkey on it (which is set at default) to turn the tablet back to "intuos mode". that is, you can go back to controlling the cursor on your main monitor with a quick button push and it's like I got my old tablet back.

If any of you guys have any further questions, post em here and I'll answer.

For those that still draw and animate in flash with a blasted mouse (LOOKING AT LUIS), I cry for you.

I've been using wacom tablets for maybe 6 years now and as much as I love em, there was always that disconnect of looking at the monitor as you draw on a tablet in front of you. It was never much of a problem, but there was always a few issues that irked me.

I've been eyeing those Wacom Cintiq tablets for awhile (you know, the monitors you can directly draw on) , but I shied away for a few reasons as well. First, they're expensive. Second, I've demoed a few and I was annoyed with the lag of the brush always a fraction of a second behind your pen. Third, using flash, I'm a key command freak. If you're a Photoshop or Painter guy, I'm sure that's not much of an issue, but the constant copying, duplicating, flipping, pasting, etc. of symbols and entire sections of the timeline is a heavy burden when you got a large tablet in front of you and you gotta reach far left or right with both hands to get to your keyboard. I'm the type that puts the tablet square in front of the keyboard so I always have quick access to it. And yes, the tablets do have hotkeys, but I'm not sure they have the flexibility I need.

Anyways, Wacom just came out with a new model in their Cintiq line. Check out a cool video demo/review here.

Besides the fair price (ok it's about 999.00 but half that of the other models), it's small enough that I can set it in front of my keyboard - approximately the same size as my 6x8 Wacom Intuos. Also, the reviewer claims there's zero lag. It looks like there is in the video, but he has a fair explanation for that.

I just ordered one, and hopefully I won't totally regret it. I'll update this post in a few days with some impressions.

...and I hope those of you that got your FREE TABLETS from Tom are enjoying the wonders of them (or when they arrive). Pressure sensitivity alone makes em worth it.

Cintiq_12WX.jpg

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118 Comments

Dec. 29, 2007 | 8:34 AM silentkat says:

Those lucky bastards. My Wacom shit out on me a few weeks ago causing me to stop my 4285th Frame. Gotta go buy a new one. If only Newgrounds could afford me one...

Dec. 29, 2007 | 8:38 AM JohnnyUtah responds:

you have my pity sir.


Dec. 29, 2007 | 8:49 AM nirvelyar says:

Yeah, a bit unrelated but what happened to BandyHates?

Dec. 29, 2007 | 8:59 AM JohnnyUtah responds:

too lazy to update it

yeah wow...its been awhile hasn't it.

Updated: Dec. 29, 2007, 8:59 AM

Dec. 29, 2007 | 8:56 AM Masquatto says:

I can't really afford a tablet.

Thing is, I tried one, and felt totally awkward for me. Probably just takes getting used to. :-S

Dec. 29, 2007 | 9:00 AM JohnnyUtah responds:

it does take getting used to, but drawing with a mouse is akin to cavemen drawing lines on walls with rocks - IT JUST AIN'T RIGHT

Updated: Dec. 29, 2007, 9:00 AM

Dec. 29, 2007 | 9:05 AM Masquatto says:

These days I'd probably too lazy to make a tablet worthwhile anyways. :[

I seem to remember seeing some tech demo video of a new kind of tablet that overlays a thin panel of glass (or plastic or something) right over the screen and it works as a screen tablet. It seemed quite ideal.

I wish I had that link. :-X

Dec. 29, 2007 | 9:08 AM JohnnyUtah responds:

that sounds like a cintiq to me


Dec. 29, 2007 | 9:05 AM I-shade says:

u dont know wether tom will be givin out anymore tablets anytime soon do ya JohnnyUtah? i didnt get round to askin for one, damn i need one, i will try to get a picture that i drew scaned and then u will see why i badley need one, my mouse work sux, but i am wicked at drawing!

Dec. 29, 2007 | 9:08 AM JohnnyUtah responds:

sorry champ you missed the (wacom) boat for now.


Dec. 29, 2007 | 9:17 AM AlexGodoy says:

I'd suck an elderly woman's putrid infected tit for a Wacom Cintiq. I HATE drawing with a mouse. It's all I got for now.

Hmm... "Cintiq", sounds SECKSEH.


Dec. 29, 2007 | 9:21 AM Wiiporter says:

I just got a Bamboo. It's strange, but I could adapt. Still, I'm holding off on Flash until I do.


Dec. 29, 2007 | 9:28 AM Funy-mony says:

WELL HOT SEX!
I moved on from a mouse to a graphire 4x5, but then moved on to a 6x8 intuos3 the day before yesterday.

Now I can NEVER look back at the mouse...

BUT DAMN doode. I'm uber jealous!
I hope you enjoy your tablet. That looks freakin SWEET. D= *DROOL*
GOTTA LET US KNOW HOW IT GOES and rape the hell out of flash with it.

Dec. 29, 2007 | 10:35 AM JohnnyUtah responds:

I'll be raping all next week

Updated: Dec. 29, 2007, 10:35 AM

Dec. 29, 2007 | 9:51 AM SaltshakerClock says:

not having any programs to draw with, i have no use for a tablet, but if i did, i would use it to touch up drawings and such, but i don't know if it would work on an imac. :(


Dec. 29, 2007 | 10:05 AM Psi43 says:

yeah hey can you order one of those for me, too. I need a tablet and I don't have enough money, thanks buddy!

It does look awesome, I should try to get one of these, but that would mean that I'd have to save up my money for quite a while.

Gonna look if there's a cheaper one on ebay now.


Dec. 29, 2007 | 10:37 AM Ying-yong says:

you never know the true feeling of pain unless you've been drawing with the pad in the middle of the laptop that's touch sensitive.

I've gotten used to my mouse, and I'm afraid that if I switch to the wacom and it messes up for some reason, then I won't be able to go back to the mouse.

Dec. 29, 2007 | 11:22 AM JohnnyUtah responds:

hahahahahaha (takes deep breath) HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

if i ever see a person drawing with a trackpad I'll end their live right then and there.

Updated: Dec. 29, 2007, 11:22 AM

Dec. 29, 2007 | 10:52 AM Catoblepas says:

"and I hope those of you that got your FREE TABLETS from Tom are enjoying the wonders of them (or when they arrive)."

That could take a while for me, because it has to travel ALL THE WAY to Finland.

VERY much looking forward to it.

Dec. 29, 2007 | 11:23 AM JohnnyUtah responds:

with that shipping fee you just got one expensive tablet.


Dec. 29, 2007 | 11:12 AM ImpendingRiot says:

Psst. Convince Tom to give one of these bad boys away :P

Or maybe a contest :P

That looks sooo hot.

I have the same problem with the monitor disconnect, I never feel like I can get my tablet to do what I'm capable with natural media.

Dec. 29, 2007 | 11:24 AM JohnnyUtah responds:

if you like "natural media" you should check out Painter


Dec. 29, 2007 | 11:14 AM Siggles says:

I have a wacom, but ever since i got a desktop computer, away from my laptop, I've been using the mouse, and the wacom feels unnatural :\


Dec. 29, 2007 | 11:14 AM KwikToon says:

Did he send them out yet? =P

Dec. 29, 2007 | 11:21 AM JohnnyUtah responds:

ill have to check


Dec. 29, 2007 | 11:26 AM xXCostelloXx says:

Wow John, thats awesome! Being a n00b animator that'll be a big help, THX!


Dec. 29, 2007 | 11:57 AM Sonucais says:

I have a tablet and dosn't look to this, that's why I can't use that and I draw better in mouse. Paper for life :( Cry for me.


Dec. 29, 2007 | 11:57 AM Rudy says:

Oh shweet, that looks fucking awersome. I have a 6X8 Graphire, and yeah it's pestering to look at the screen rather than looking at what you draw on the tablet, but you get used to it.

Maybe, I'll pick up one of those babies sometime soon.


Dec. 29, 2007 | 12:19 PM The-Dark-Reviewer says:

mine is those kinda Touch-screen shit... works for me! wtf i WOULD like those bloody gr8 tablets thingy, i got no tablet, and Newgrounds didnt send me one. LMAO


Dec. 29, 2007 | 12:41 PM Splurda says:

nice, ive still got this trust one :3


Dec. 29, 2007 | 12:45 PM retyuoligkl says:

I just found out what a wacom is from you dude, how much are the cheapest ones?

Dec. 29, 2007 | 2:31 PM JohnnyUtah responds:

check out wacom.com, or do a search on amazon...some of the lower models are pretty affordable


Dec. 29, 2007 | 12:45 PM MysticShinHanKu says:

That was the single most amazing video I've ever watched...even if it had a slight lag, that's ok because you see exactly what you're doing...

Welp...I've decided I'm heading over to a Wacom Warehouse to rob it clean...you comin, JohnnyUtah?


Dec. 29, 2007 | 12:45 PM spite-skater says:

Cintiq is a sexy bitch with that screen. I definitely feel limited with a mouse and a tablet would kick ass. But at those prices, its not exactly my highest priority to run out and get one. So I guess I'll have to try again next year when your handing out those free tablets.

But ya know, A blank wall and a can of spray paint beats tablets anyday ;)

Dec. 29, 2007 | 2:32 PM JohnnyUtah responds:

if you dont factor in cops kicking your ass..then yes :)


Dec. 29, 2007 | 12:54 PM Senti says:

Damn, that shit is beautiful. I'd totally love to get one now. My 4x6 is doing me just fine for the time being, however, but if I decide to make take graphical computers to the next level this looks like a must. I can't wait to see your next update. I hope it works wonders for you!


Dec. 29, 2007 | 12:58 PM BoMToons says:

It'd be nice to see a demo of your art process. I'm always curious what level of smoothing you use and your methods for sketching, inking, coloring, and shading.

Dec. 29, 2007 | 2:32 PM JohnnyUtah responds:

maybe ill throw something together


Dec. 29, 2007 | 1:00 PM Pandora-Productions says:

So, what are you doing with your old Wacom?

If you need someone to, oh I don't know... take it off your hands, if you know what I'm saying.

If you don't your intelligence is comparable to pig shit.

I'm actually in the process of picking out a Wacom to purchase at the moment, yet; I'm unsure which one to go for.

I didn't get one for Christmas which was the initial plan instead my brother with simian like mental power bought me the entire DVD collection of Miami Vice... (Hes an odd one that lad).

So what model would you recommend? Since, you being a long time user; you should have good knowledge on them.

Dec. 29, 2007 | 2:35 PM JohnnyUtah responds:

haha what. miami vice?

you know any model will do really, the thing you should be more concerned with is the size of em. my Wacom Intuos is 6x8 and I'm very comfortable with the size.

being that you can zoom in and out on your art, you're never straining to fill in detail with it.


Dec. 29, 2007 | 1:13 PM TimFrommeyer says:

My ohh. That looks sexy.
Always dreamed of a Cintiq aswell. I'm still using the good ol Intuos first version.. It's better than nothing, atleast it's got pressure so that's always fun with Flash.
Still would love to afford one of these some day, can only make it easier.

Looking forward to your review and how you're getting along with it.
hf.

Dec. 29, 2007 | 2:36 PM JohnnyUtah responds:

ill let you guys know for sure


Dec. 29, 2007 | 1:26 PM Cheddar79 says:

Yeah I've been using a wacom tablet for a few years now and have been recently looking at upgrading to an actual screen to draw on.

I've heard decent reviews on this one and its possibly a future buy.


Dec. 29, 2007 | 1:33 PM aldlv says:

looks awesome


Dec. 29, 2007 | 1:34 PM Goat-Man says:

im still using a mouse. i don't think im a good enough drawer to need a wacom. when i draw stuff out on paper it's usually pretty slopy. so i don't think that it's for me.
and i don't really like those drawing monitors. it seems like such an awkward angle to try and draw at.

also once you do get your new wacom, maybe you shoukd do a quick drawing or two of some NG characters. just to give an example.

i also have a question for you. because you said you got your first tablet about 6 years ago, how have you improved since? were you always adapt when it came to drawing? or did your skills greatly improve with the tablet in your flashes?


Dec. 29, 2007 | 1:38 PM MetalDart says:

I just won a Wacom (lol) so I'll see if I like it better than the mouse.

Dec. 29, 2007 | 2:37 PM JohnnyUtah responds:

man you better.


Dec. 29, 2007 | 2:00 PM tormented-soul says:

Just the 12"... Go all out.. get the 21"!

I've been contemplating the purchase of a Cintiq forever. My GF would kill me... though she didn't seem to mind the $11,000 engagement ring I put on her finger.

Right now I use my Gateway CX2726 Tablet PC.. gives the same freedom of writing directly on the screen.. just not any bells and whistles as far as response time, pressure sensitivity, yada, yada...

Definitely keep us updated on how it works for ya!!

Dec. 29, 2007 | 2:38 PM JohnnyUtah responds:

11,000...my god. my friend bought an 8,000 dollar one and s SMACKED HIM IN THE FACE because of it. no joke. i hope you took out an insurance policy on it.


Dec. 29, 2007 | 2:16 PM voidshatter says:

i would've asked for a wacom, but i already have a tablet.... it sux, its so hard to right click


Dec. 29, 2007 | 2:22 PM PicoZX says:

$_$
I only got Wacom.


Dec. 29, 2007 | 2:23 PM PicoZX says:

Graphire. =(

Dec. 29, 2007 | 2:39 PM JohnnyUtah responds:

i used to have a graphire, its a respectable tablet. ive seen guys animate flash tv shows on em.


Dec. 29, 2007 | 2:44 PM TheJermz says:

God fucking damn. Now I know what to blow my next paycheck on. You, my good sir, has opened the light in my eyeballs. Posted on Synj Forums to share the wealth! :D


Dec. 29, 2007 | 2:45 PM Encratis says:

OH MY GOD!!! I wish I had one... but that probably goes for everyone here...


Dec. 29, 2007 | 3:10 PM Imacow says:

Those Cintiq's are sexy.

I got a 6x8 Intuos fir Xmas.

Dec. 29, 2007 | 5:40 PM JohnnyUtah responds:

very cool, thats what I use now


Dec. 29, 2007 | 3:14 PM UnderARock says:

If Im in New York, should I have gotten the free tablet by now?

Dec. 29, 2007 | 5:39 PM JohnnyUtah responds:

its coming sir, be patient.


Dec. 29, 2007 | 3:29 PM sarah954 says:

that was cool


Dec. 29, 2007 | 4:26 PM BadPun says:

That thing was born to animate with. You lucky little creator of Tankman, you!


Dec. 29, 2007 | 4:30 PM LilDwarf says:

I've got one for a while and I've been improoving since I got it. Do you draw in flash or other program?


Dec. 29, 2007 | 4:57 PM 125Maniac says:

go wacoms!


Dec. 29, 2007 | 5:18 PM JakFro5t says:

Hi, I have yet to actually submit anything but I have tried fbf god is it boring. I used "Pivot" yes I know it's newbie but it got me very interested in animation.

So this Wacom, it's basicly drawing like you would with pen and paper (plus the extra tools) so as long as you can draw well and have patients, you can create a farely good flash movie.

Another note, drawing with a mouse sucks, I only use MSpaint but ugh the mouse just can't hit those special curves and lines that I want.

Dec. 29, 2007 | 5:39 PM JohnnyUtah responds:

in a word..yes.


Dec. 29, 2007 | 5:18 PM TitanAura says:

I have.... a graphire 3 3X5, or maybe it's 4X5 or something.... anyways, it is an antique....
I'm still trying ebay to upgrade to a intuos but the cintiq.... wow, just wow.


Dec. 29, 2007 | 6:40 PM Goonie says:

I would love to have one of those. :*( I would put in some good use into to it.


Dec. 29, 2007 | 7:24 PM fat-barry says:

Funny thing is, I (being i cheap ass/being strapped for cash) spent as little as possible on my wacom, about £30. It has been great! And is still in full working condition. Other people i know who spent a ton of money on their tablet now have usless broken pieces of equipment....


Dec. 29, 2007 | 7:49 PM JiminySha says:

Damn man, if that ain't a good looking piece of hardware. Makes me wanna touch myself in all the good places. I'm friggin' hurtin' for a tablet right now. I've been drawing with a mouse and a touchpad!


Dec. 29, 2007 | 8:14 PM bob says:

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAA.

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!


Dec. 29, 2007 | 8:50 PM Jynxxx says:

"HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAA.
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!"

*ahem*

On a more related note, that is basically a sex toy for the hands / eyes. I just got a regular Wacom 6 x 8 for Christmas, and I love it. So I know whatcha mean when your talking about having to look up at the monitor, it lacks something, but still far easier / more efficient then a mouse (sorry Luis, don't yell at me.)
Hope it works out.


Dec. 29, 2007 | 8:58 PM Cheddar79 says:

Ugh...just read the comment from the guy who spent $11,000 on an engagement ring. I spent £600 on the one I got for my fiance...way to make me look like a dick.

ALTHOUGH....with the dollar as weak as it is, 11 grand is probably closer to £600 nowadays! :)


Dec. 29, 2007 | 9:00 PM Luis says:

well as much as i disapprove of this thread, i would be interested to see if it indeed is lag free. if there is any tablet id actually consider migrating to it would be one where it truly does feel like pen and paper..

iz tom giving away these tablets in 2008?


Dec. 29, 2007 | 9:41 PM DarkShadow8181 says:

I hope that tablet work out for you. It seems cool if it were actually have the exact feeling of a pencil and paper.

Also, Did Tom send out the tablets yet? I won a tablet from Tom but didnt get it yet, but I guess i'll just be patient. :]


Dec. 29, 2007 | 10:39 PM reality-monkey says:

it lags? well thanks for the buzzkill but its better than blowing 2500 on something that i wouldnt like...


Dec. 29, 2007 | 11:10 PM Lalo says:

yeah i want one of those too... one day...


Dec. 29, 2007 | 11:35 PM Xionico says:

Reading a comment below-

Damn you >:0, I draw with a Trackpad/Laptop pad

anyways, congrats on your new toy XD


Dec. 29, 2007 | 11:41 PM DemitriousDoom says:

OMG!!! That Wacom is so sexy.... I still gotta stick with my new Bamboo Tablet though. Oh well. Anyway, it looks neat! I wonder how easily the screen will break though....
(Excuse my randomness, I'm a little hyper right now.)


Dec. 29, 2007 | 11:46 PM WarSyndicate says:

Do you think this would lower the price on intuos3? Not that it matters me, I have one anyway.

Dec. 30, 2007 | 10:42 AM JohnnyUtah responds:

the intuos has been getting gradually cheaper over the years...not much but it's been going down.


Dec. 30, 2007 | 12:40 AM Nobbin-Robin says:

If I didn't win one of those tablets I probably would have gotten carpel tunnel. My sex life would never be the same. Thank you NewGrounds :3


Dec. 30, 2007 | 1:37 AM EvilEgg says:

HOLY SHIT I NEED A TABLET.... i figured that tablet would have the regular kind of erroes with a touch screen but it looks smooth and easy to write on like paper.....

SOME DAY!!!!!!!!!!!


Dec. 30, 2007 | 1:57 AM Chad-T says:

SEND ME YOURS UTAH!


Dec. 30, 2007 | 2:21 AM Nuke15 says:

Well, when you do get this thing, I'd like to see some sort of increase in the amount of posted art work. No more excuses.

Dec. 30, 2007 | 4:51 AM JohnnyUtah responds:

hey i dont like threats BOY what


Dec. 30, 2007 | 5:11 AM ZekeySpaceyLizard says:

I got a tablet pc. Same result, same quality, slightly smaller screen.

Best 630 bucks I ever spent.

Dec. 30, 2007 | 11:35 AM JohnnyUtah responds:

good to know...I'm confident it will work out


Dec. 30, 2007 | 6:50 AM Hoeloe says:

Hopefully I'm getting an Intuos 3, A4 sized some time in March. I had a crappy, A6 Volito 2 that broke about 3 weeks after I got it (pen snapped in half). I plan on working my way up till I have enough for a tablet like that (I only have about £40, and I already owe about £70...). Well, hop you enjoy your new tablet XD.


Dec. 30, 2007 | 10:50 AM LazyMuffin says:

I like my mouse. ):


Dec. 30, 2007 | 11:28 AM LilFugitive says:

Damn, that looks sweet! I also just got a tablet, a Wacom Bamboo, it's sweet. But I should once get that one!


Dec. 30, 2007 | 12:48 PM Trinidex says:

Heh, very nice. Looking forward to your review of it.

As far as tablets go, for Christmas I upgraded from a godawfully unresponsive and old Trust 1200 (http://pan.fotovista.com/dev/1/0/0210 0001/g_02100001.jpg) to a lovely, sleek Wacom Intuos3 9x12, which is excellent compared to my old one.

Have a great new year.


Dec. 30, 2007 | 1:21 PM Psi43 says:

I'm not sure if I should get a Cintiq or a Tablet PC. Zekey said that Tablet PC's are cool but smaller. But Cintiq's are fucking expensive. hm

Dec. 30, 2007 | 1:27 PM JohnnyUtah responds:

yeah, tough call I suppose.


Dec. 30, 2007 | 1:22 PM slipz10 says:

OH HAY JOHNNAY UTAH UR LIEK TEH BETUST!
But seriously, you got any links to a tablet sites? I have christmas money to spend here!

Dec. 30, 2007 | 1:27 PM JohnnyUtah responds:

wacom.com

amazon.com


Dec. 30, 2007 | 1:26 PM TjA says:

To think i animate and illustrate with a mouse.


Dec. 30, 2007 | 2:44 PM Reyals says:

It looks a lot bigger in the video than I thought it would be. I might just have to pick one up now. I don't need two kidneys THAT much anyway.


Dec. 30, 2007 | 3:34 PM ElMagico says:

wow. this looks better than my favorite movie, "Gigli", starring Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck.

Dec. 30, 2007 | 6:06 PM JohnnyUtah responds:

i should ban you for that


Dec. 30, 2007 | 4:08 PM MaestroRage says:

on a totally unrelated note your profile pic is from Hajimo No Ippo, just watched that last week. Freaking brilliant anime.

On a related note I have a few artist friends who are very opposite sided with these things. Some of them will swear the transition to technology somehow diminishes the authenticity of the drawing, whilst the others claim that the new development tools allow for more layers of power. I don't rightly know who to go with, I used to draw a great deal and I just enjoyed the sound of the pencil on paper to be honest. As I never took the craft to any extreme I don't particularly see the full power of a tablet.

Oh well, best of luck with that sucker, looks mighty hype :D!

Dec. 30, 2007 | 6:08 PM JohnnyUtah responds:

they're all just tools. (the digital drawing pad that is)

would a caveman tell us that using *GASP pencils and professionally mixed paint isn't as authentic as his cave drawings drawn with rocks?

tell those friends of yours to get with the times

Updated: Dec. 30, 2007, 6:10 PM

Dec. 30, 2007 | 4:22 PM ZombieswithJetpacks says:

I wish I had one, drawing with a mouse sucks balls.


Dec. 30, 2007 | 5:49 PM emanhattan says:

Actually Dave uses one of those to create RAB and the others, I think.

Never tought someone would complain about them.


Dec. 30, 2007 | 5:51 PM emanhattan says:

HAHA good thing I dont have to draw! Im a sprite artist....

meh... who am I kiddig. EVERY TIME I TRY TO MAKE A NO SPRITE FLASH this stupid mouse keeps bothering me! AGRRRR


Dec. 30, 2007 | 10:24 PM Atgod88 says:

Awsome lookin tabby, im thinkin about gettin one of the older ones like the bamboo something i think, its like 200 bucks and im broke so i think thats about the right price range for me. I wish i could animate and use it for flash, but im sure i cant, so ill get it to mess around with and so i can stop covering my fridge with the macaroni art pictures im so awsome at.

Note: I just learned how to pronounce Wacom, i that it was pronounced Way-Comb, not Wah-Kum, I love urban dictionary.


Dec. 31, 2007 | 2:33 AM WolfBlitz2 says:

you're old.......
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29 years......... old

Dec. 31, 2007 | 5:13 AM JohnnyUtah responds:

and you're 16 and still getting yelled at by your parents..what's your point?


Dec. 31, 2007 | 3:26 AM rtil says:

hopefully i can ease some of your worries here

I got a cintiq12wx for christmas. i was nervous the transition from my intuos3 to the cintiq would be a little rough, but i was wrong. almost instantly i got the hang of it and now i can't put it down. that not feeling like i was really making contact with my drawing surface and seeing my marks that was missing on the intuos is now gone with the cintiq. i have more control over my lines and it's a much better experience.

i don't even want a 21ux. it's too expensive, too big ( i like to work with the thing in my lap and my desk is really small), and this is a huge improvement from the intuos. i just wish i could improve my posture.. half the time i find myself arching over in a horrible position. you'll probably find yourself adjusting your seat - or your body - a lot.

also, i only experience lag when i'm using enormous brushes in photoshop, or putting any kind of large amount of stress on my machine. i'd experience that lag with or without the tablet.

as far as shortcut buttons go, you've got 2 sliders and 10 shortcut keys. for me, that is just about right. i probably could use two or three more, but my keyboard is close by. i made all the ones i have to hold down on the left since i'm right-handed, and some of the shift-ctrl-alt-whatever long commands that i use often on the right.

the ONLY setback i could possibly think of is pen tip in alignment with the brush tip. granted, i've only had the thing for 4 days, but what i've noticed is that i'll be moving my head around a lot as i'm drawing, and sometimes the pen tip will look like it's a bit too far from the brush. now, you can change the alignment anytime you want from the wacom properties to fit to your typical seating position, but doing that all the time is a little impractical. but i find that ignoring your pen tip and just looking at the screen while you're painting helps you forget the distance , and it doesn't cause any setbacks while you're working.

i think you will find that disconnect that you and i shared with intuos tablets will disappear like it did for me . you won't regret your purchase :)

Dec. 31, 2007 | 5:17 AM JohnnyUtah responds:

awesome rtil. you're the perfect person/opinion I was looking for here.

I did read about that whole adjustment angle thing, but I work in a fairly stationary position so it should be cool.

thanks


Dec. 31, 2007 | 5:31 AM WolfBlitz2 says:

I like pointing out the obvious and mostly annoying people
but suprisingly I don't get yelled at by my parents really..... more like nagging :P

Dec. 31, 2007 | 6:02 AM JohnnyUtah responds:

dont worry, I'll be 65 and still animating cock jokes and all the parents of young kids will be terrified of me.


Dec. 31, 2007 | 6:11 AM WolfBlitz2 says:

why do I doubt that? Is maturity just an illusion?
In that case, I wish you luck


Dec. 31, 2007 | 10:05 AM Splurda says:

i wonder if you'll die without there being a "photoshop johnnyutah" thread :o

Dec. 31, 2007 | 10:45 AM JohnnyUtah responds:

no fucking thank you


Dec. 31, 2007 | 11:57 AM IndustrialIndustries says:

I just got the wacom bamboo fun for christmas (http://www.wacom.com/bambootablet/bam boofun.cfm) I'm still getting used to it but I can do some good doodles in Corel Painter

Zombie Lincoln drawing http://www.b3ta.cr3ation.co.uk/data/b mp/0215.zombielincoln.bmp


Dec. 31, 2007 | 8:36 PM YEAHmix says:

Oooh. I Would LOVE (<3) a tablet.
Has I draw with a mouse I've got to be constantly changing the thickness and th smoothing always fuckin' things up.
What a pain in the ass.


Jan. 1, 2008 | 9:44 PM Penquin11 says:

I saddly have to use the almighty mouse for art work, and thats not all being 14 and all i have to use ms paint and pivot stick (get some help from jasc paint shop pro)animator for my art but it still looks good , i think but the tablet would help alot...


Jan. 1, 2008 | 10:03 PM Penquin11 says:

hey it would be cool if u could look at my blog and tell me how to improve my art, since im doing it with a mouse, plz go easy on me

Jan. 2, 2008 | 8:54 AM JohnnyUtah responds:

what blog


Jan. 1, 2008 | 11:51 PM SpencerMann says:

I'd have to say that it's quite impressive. And for the price, well it's not bad at all. Thanks for the find.

Jan. 2, 2008 | 8:53 AM JohnnyUtah responds:

ill take full credit, NO PROBLEM


Jan. 2, 2008 | 12:13 AM silly-stungun-millie says:

First off, my fiance spent under $300 for my engagement ring, which I explicitly requested to be as cheap as possible... hooray for frugal sensibilities! :3

Second, that Cintiq is PERFECT (or parfait, as pronounced in Street Fighter Alpha) for what I've been looking for. I've been lusting after a 21" Cintiq for a few years now, but the $3000 price tag makes the chances of getting one a pipe dream.

I would've applied for a free tablet, but I've already got one... a then-new $100 4x5" graphire from 3+ years ago that now has the text worn off the back, the pen nib worn down, and the cord that had impromptu surgery applied to it when the cord was bent too many times. (Note: to anyone with a USB tablet, DON'T wrap the wire around the tablet or yank on the cord, it's not a good thing!)
Despite its problems though, I still love that little shitpiece. I just want to have a good replacement when it finally coughs out its last sketch and dies.

Still, good luck with your new toy!

Jan. 2, 2008 | 8:54 AM JohnnyUtah responds:

buddy..i dont need luck


Jan. 2, 2008 | 12:47 PM Murphinator says:

first i was amazed at the video, i HAD to get one.
then i saw the pricetag, and shit my pants.
so much for getting a cintiq.


Jan. 2, 2008 | 7:41 PM Kingsuperman23 says:

dam! that's all i gotta say. dam.


Jan. 2, 2008 | 7:45 PM Doregushin says:

"First, they're expensive. Second, I've demoed a few and I was annoyed with the lag of the brush always a fraction of a second behind your pen. Third, using flash, I'm a key command freak."
Here lies the reason why I don' have(or want) one.

Jan. 2, 2008 | 7:54 PM JohnnyUtah responds:

YET, as I explained, this new model mostly takes care of those issues


Jan. 2, 2008 | 8:59 PM uzi47 says:

I can't afford one..

Help a newgrounder.
Save a life.

Whudda say?


Jan. 3, 2008 | 2:13 PM mmankt says:

now johnny's dick drawings will be even more perfect! damn Wacoms are far more expansive in Poland, about 1800$ with 2.6zl for 1$ for a cintiq15 . anyway ill buy it somewhere in the far future:) thanks for the info johnnyUtah!


Jan. 3, 2008 | 3:22 PM pacometaloso says:

Nice.


Jan. 3, 2008 | 7:11 PM Bug says:

thats neat, so do you have to get like 12" diagonal screen protectors or what

and yes ive enjoyed my free tablet ever since i got it =) it makes drawing time FUN

Jan. 3, 2008 | 8:15 PM JohnnyUtah responds:

the screen is pretty sturdy

ive been putting some pressure on it and no problems


Jan. 3, 2008 | 10:10 PM senior-twinki says:

you made my intuos feel excluded.


Jan. 4, 2008 | 12:19 AM The-Swain says:

I've got my head in the clouds, dreaming about getting one of these things when I know it's not gonna happen any time in the near future.

I wonder about replacing the screen shield, like the drawing area of the Intuos tablet. One of the things I love the most about the Intuos is the paper-like feel of drawing on that surface, whereas the Graphire felt like ice skating around a slippery rink. I hope there's some kind of friction on the see-through Cintiq surface, and that it's not too expensive to replace. My Intuos gets pretty battered.

Jan. 4, 2008 | 10:52 AM JohnnyUtah responds:

it does have more of a textured feel than my intuos for sure

i think it's actually the pen tip causing it. i actually have one of those black tips that came with my intuos that make it feel like paper.


Jan. 4, 2008 | 8:52 AM UnusedName says:

My brother just got a A4 wacom, it is completely sweet but rather awkward at first...


Jan. 4, 2008 | 3:58 PM ngmastah says:

Ya know, now that you have a Cintiq you can give me one of your old wacoms :)


Jan. 4, 2008 | 10:33 PM Dookiemaister says:

i have a reliable tablet myself but i bet it would be a whole lot better if i could see the picture im drawing on.
(im probably not going to run out and get one since there's a high chance something even better will come out in a few years)

Jan. 4, 2008 | 10:48 PM JohnnyUtah responds:

that's a terrible philosophy to have about technology...it will ALWAYS be getting better.

BUY BUY BUY NOW NOW BOW


Jan. 5, 2008 | 6:17 AM Bagman07 says:

FUCK TABLETS! WHERE IS NEXT TANKMAN!


Jan. 5, 2008 | 8:37 PM Eredar says:

yeah, im saving up for a wacom intuos 3 9X12.. better than this aiptek piece of shit ive got right now.

but it was only £70... compared to £320.. price is the only problem.


Jan. 7, 2008 | 12:15 AM aldlv says:

looks pretty nice...
I would love to have 1...


Jan. 7, 2008 | 7:13 PM TheFunk says:

I've always wondered of these Tablets, Never even tried one.

Wonder if it'd improve my work? Prolly, anything would improve my stuff, lulz.

PS: Yo Johnny its Mc Funk 16 from live.

Jan. 8, 2008 | 1:45 PM JohnnyUtah responds:

howdy sir


Jan. 8, 2008 | 2:51 PM peunk says:

me thonks you should work on more tankmen with your new toy...mayhaps?


Jan. 8, 2008 | 5:57 PM that1andonly says:

Hay JohnnyUtah!!!!

Penis, Penis, Penis...


Jan. 9, 2008 | 4:09 AM Sparx-1 says:

Wow... A thousand dollars for a graphics tablet?! Is it really THAT good?!


Jan. 9, 2008 | 6:11 PM ZekeySpaceyLizard says:

110th comment


Jan. 9, 2008 | 11:39 PM Frag-Reaper says:

ignore previous comment

oh son of a bitch!
wtf did my browser just put that comment on this thread instead of the one i told it to?

Uh...nice tablet, btw! I hear they're great for computer drawing.


Jan. 10, 2008 | 2:03 PM catwoman1337 says:

?????????????wtf


Jan. 10, 2008 | 4:47 PM R3dF0x says:

Hey, why am I blocked from sending you PMs?


Jan. 10, 2008 | 4:48 PM VespeneGas says:

JohnnyUtahPhillips


Jan. 11, 2008 | 2:55 PM milchreis says:

hi,

I wonder if this 21 cintiq is too big for drawing?!
Well I have a non-pressure sensitive tablet, that works fine. (it's portable, so I can use it anywhere, that's great)

way offtopic: have you seen the modbook videos?
This tablet is also a wacom (well I guess they used the cheapest thing there they could produce) because there's a huge delay while drawing.

But wacom's quite expensive as there are other things to be paid, you know, the new pc, the cs3 license , the ..ouh..what, oh yeah, my stomach.. XD

I guess I gotta eat something.

PS: "If you only watch for the giants, you'll be eaten by the ants"
->a virtual cookie for the first user telling me where this quote is from =)
-->yeah this was corresponding to your picture XD


Jan. 11, 2008 | 3:09 PM CalebRS says:

Hey, help me. i recently got my 12wx cintiq tablet. it works fine, except for one thing. to view anything on the tablet, i have to drag it off the main screen to the right, using the mouse. is this normal? and if not, do you know how to fix it?


Jan. 11, 2008 | 5:16 PM borly says:

id like to have a free tablet! but im just a lil noob on NG, tom wont want to give me one :p


Jan. 11, 2008 | 5:20 PM pacometaloso says:

Ya you rock.


Jan. 17, 2008 | 7:34 PM grimreaper1377 says:

yeah man i like BoMToons's idea
SHOW US SOME BEHIND THE SCENES WORK


May. 8, 2008 | 1:38 AM Sweetgirl21 says:

I think that the one game turkey hunter is fun I made a new high score and the one movie on this site is funny its buzz lightyear and woody from toy story the one where the kid gose into his mothers room and finds a gun and his moms dildo and thinks the dildo is a lightsaver and hes like it even makes the noise and he tells woody you use the gun and buzz will use the lightsaver to deflect the bullets, and woody is like see you in hell and buzz is like bite me and woody shoots the gun and kills buzz and at the same time the kid shoots his arm off I think that is so funny, that in the beggining of the movie buzz is smoking a crayola crayon. lol

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